We had a fascinating, informative and warm exchange with Katherine Trebeck last Tuesday, 2 June, in our series of Zoom conversations with “next system” thinkers and actors, titled The Elephant Meets…

The topics ranged from whether “girls riding bicycles” was a richer indicator of social development than GDP; how micro-economic experiments in wellbeing could shape the macro-economics of nations; the way our deep metaphors structure the way we concieve of our economic direction - for example, what if we had “arrived home” with all the resources we needed for a flourishing life, than always thinking we had to “progress” to better destinations? And much more, in a discussion well-attended by the general public.

For more on Kate, visit her website. and explore the Wellbeing Economy Alliance. Her book The Economics of Arrival: Ideas for a Grown Up Economy (co-authored with Jeremy Williams and published by Policy Press) was published in early 2019, and profiled on here.